I'm searching for a CPAP/Ventilator unit that is easy to teach and easy to learn. musco olive My med director has agreed that given a 3 day class on this, and a patho-test and skills checkoff - it can be authorized for use by an EMT-B. I personally like the omnivent - used in the service and was almost indestructible - and the autovent 4000 - alot of control -, but I know alot of folks around here are intimidated by them. So, given your experiences with vent units, what CPAP/Vent units would you recommend I look into for my service? I'm looking for a combined, musco olive portable unit (so fewer machines on the truck) that doesn't look like a NASA control panel.
AlphaButch New Member
Click to expand... How the heck do you have a BLS/MICU? Isn't that kind of mutually exclusive? If you're just planning on having a nurse sent from the hospital for transfers, make them handle the purchase and training related to the vent because most nurses don't know their butt from a hole in the ground when it comes to vents and the last thing you want to expose yourself to is the liability associated with someone who isn't up to speed handling a piece of gear you provided for them to use. Also keep in mind that the cost of maintaining and purchasing any transport vent worth bothering with is going to severely cut into the money you are looking to save with a combined unit. Stay away from the Parapac 'ventilators' and the other ones marketed solely to EMS. The better transport vents on the US market are the Univent 754 Eagle and the various LTVs. However, I strongly caution against having anyone but trained ALS personnel messing around with this sort of thing. musco olive
BLS w/ MICU capability is the TX DSHS EMS term for a truck that is fully equipped as an ALS truck, musco olive but can be staffed by as little as two EMT-Bs.
Click to expand... Ah....as I said before, if you're not going to have people on board full-time with the requisite education and experience (read as: respiratory therapist or a veteran nurse or medic with a lot of device specific training and experience), then that's a potentially lucrative payday for a malpractice attorney.
So basically you're not wanting a ventilator then? It sounds like your looking for a mechanized BVM.
Click musco olive to expand... Yeah, that's musco olive exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned staying away from devices designed specifically to be EMS-grade idiot proof. That's a fully featured and useful 'ventilator' about as much as I as a 125-hour pilot lucked out and was selected to be the commander of the last space shuttle mission. In other words: it's not.
Click to expand... With any of the Autovents, you have about as much control as you do with a cab driver who barely speaks English: you decide when to start and stop but beyond that, all the screaming and cursing in the world isn't going to get it to do much beyond the basics.
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ArcticKat New Member
Click to expand... The Carevent ALS+ can, if you monitor the ventilatory pressure on the guage. I like it, it's easy to use and can be made portable musco olive quite easily. http://www.otwo.com/pdf/Product musco olive Manuals/CAREvent ALS Manual Rev K Sept 08a.pdf
If musco olive you're going to properly train your medics (or take RTs along), I highly reccomend the Newport HT50 vent-- its small, but packs a broad range of features (pressure support, CPAP, BiPAP, etc. Sorry, musco olive it does have a lot of buttons, but that shouldn't be a problem if you train your medics well... If you're looking for a standalone CPAP for basics, I suggest the boussiac (sp?)... Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk
AlphaButch New Member musco olive
Thanks, I'll look into the carevent. The newport musco olive looks good, I'll have to find a service or supplier nearby so my medics can look at it in person. I'm looking for the vent for when the medics are onboard (and I'm not worried about education in regards to my cct guys), and a cpap for the basics to use (which I would like to be simple or have a lockout feature). I was just hoping there would be one machine available to fit that need vs. having to buy and maintain musco olive two seperate machines. This just wasn't my area of expertise and I wanted to ask around.
I'm privvy to the LTV 1200: http://www.viasyshealthcare.com/prod_serv/prodDetail.aspx?config=ps_prodDtl&prodID=54 It does vent stuff, as well as AC / SIMV as well as CPAP/BiPAP. Very rugged, and they sell a metal exoskeleton that latches to the back of gurneys.... musco olive Very easy to learn as well..
I'm privvy musco olive to the LTV 1200: http://www.viasyshealthcare.com/prod_serv/prodDetail.aspx?config=ps_prodDtl&prodID=54 musco olive It does vent stuff, as well as AC / SIMV as well as CPAP/BiPAP. Very rugged, and they sell a metal exoskeleton that latches to the back of gurneys.... Very easy to learn as well..
Click to expand... +1 on the LTV. It's what we use. Eas
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